Friday, July 18, 2008

A Last Word on the Autism/Vaccine Debate

My Autism/Vaccine video has caused a huge amount of controversy. Unfortunately, I don't have the time, patience or expertise to debate on a topic that is so emotionally charged and scientific as this one is. However, I have gotten a fair share of comments regarding the Hannah Poling case. In this court case, a child's family was compensated for possible harm caused by her childhood vaccinations. Although I don't have the appropriate knowledge or background to fully analyze this case, Steven Novella of the Yale University School of Medicine and author of the NeuroLogica Blog does. He wrote a very informative piece titled "Has the Government Conceded Vaccines Cause Autism" on the Hanna Poling case that I highly encourage everyone to read, especially those who see this case as "proof" that vaccines cause autism. His conclusion on the case is as follows:

This is a unique and idiosyncratic case that raises more questions than it answers. In my opinion as a neurologist, with the information provided, the child has a mitochondrial encephalopathy. The role of the vaccines is unclear, but at worst a rare vaccine reaction exacerbated the underlying mitochondrial disorder. This case has no clear implication for the larger question concerning vaccines and autism, which is likely why both sides agreed to settle.


Please go read his entire report to fully understand how he comes to this conclusion.

3 comments:

Erinamondo said...

Again Razaa, you just admitted that you don't have the expertise or knowledge about this to debate it. Isn't that what you were accusing the candidates of in the first place but yet doing just that yourself? You were criticizing them for spreading speculation about vaccines, but yet now you seem to be doing the same thing with posting articles doing just that-speculating!

As a rebuttal to the article from Steven Novella of Yale, he refers to the Hannah Poling case as a "unique and idiosyncratic case" which what researchers are finding today, is not the case at all.

Mitochondrial disorder is emerging as the most common medical condition among the autism population, with up to 20% of the autism population in recent studies are believed to have the disorder. Mitochondrial disorder is just as mysterious if not MORE than autism, with it going undiagnosed with years going by with no symptoms until one day huge complications arise.

If this settlement by the government in fact means that there are some children who have "underlying disorders" that are invisible to us, in which vaccines can cause autism, then shouldn't there be a pre-screening to determine if each child has these underlying disorders before vaccinating? If we can't give every kid the same food, for example-peanuts, shouldn't the same be said for vaccines, that one size cannot possibly fit all!!

Razaa, if you're not ready to widely open this can of worms, then don't open it!

I personally support any candidate brave enough to face the possible backlash, and ask these important questions.

And PLEASE correct the spelling of BaraCk Obama's name on your page!!

Medical Student said...

The consensus is still that the case is idiosyncratic. Whether this is because we have yet to evaluate the potential for immunization-induced neurological damage in the subpopulation of people with mitochondrial disorders similar to Poling's or because it's simply unique, we don't really know.

Erinamondo brings up a solid point, about mitochondrial disorders and autism, but the logical steps here are more likened to long leaps. At the rate of immunization in this country, if the autism culprit were that obvious, a mitochondrial pattern of inheritence would have been obverved a long time ago. The vast majority of mitochondrial disoders found in autism are related to energy metabolism. It's impossible to conclude that the immunizations gave Miss Poling encephalopathy and subsequent autism because she had a pre-existing condition (her mito- disorder). We, in fact, do not know if she had this disorder before, during, or after her episode of encephalopathy. It is equally possible that the mitochondrial dysfunction developed along with her autism. We simply do not know the answer to the question, yet since Polings parents have three terminal degrees between the two of them; they were able to push their case to victory. Not to jump from specific to general, but I have met a young man with a mitochondrial disorder similar to Poling's who was vaccinated as a child and is now a medical student at a top 5 school.

I am not saying that immunization didn't cause Poling's autism, nor am I saying that those in a subpopulation similar to Poling's will or will not have an increased risk for autism after immunization. I am saying that we do not know these answers yet.

Any jump to a conclusion now is unfounded.

Erinamondo brings up an even better point about pre-screening for a mito- dysfunction/mutation in children prior to vaccines. We would love to do this, but it's beyond our means. Testing for mitochondrial metabolism is not easy and few labs have the best technology to do this. We screen every kid for galactosemia now because it's fast and easy, but what erinamondo suggested is neither.

A better option is to have safeguards to insure the removal of trace merc from the vaccines. Secondly, merc's method of damaging neural tissue via mitochondria is by the overproduction of what we call "reactive oxygen species." ROS can be reduced by a variety of basic mechanisms, and these drugs are getting ready to be tested to treat just about every progressive disease we routinely see. Co-adminstration of immunizations plus meds to reduce ROS is a cheaper, second rate, alternative.

And on to the real point of this blog and YouTube post, McCain's comments are unfounded, as I previously mentioned. I identify with the democratic party, since I grew up poor public schools, but McCain shows a little bit of his true colors in his comments on autism. McCain is still unable to use the internet, and half of voting America is complacent with this brand of "intellectualism." I find this more shocking than anything medical science could ever prove or disprove. Erinamondo (who I am not attacking by saying this), in my opinion, has more problem-solving skills.

Half of us forgot for the last 8 years that it takes brains to be the President, and half of us still forget today. This observation is the only anecdotal evidence to date that suggests that national immunization produces widespread sub-clinical neurological deficits.

Anonymous said...

When were you immunized? Too young and too many?